In acest moment Cehia detine patru baterii de SA-6 KUB, fiecare avand in dotare un radar si patru lansatoare. Tinand cont de vechimea sistemului, dar si de penuria de banii prin care trec bugetele militare ale tarilor UE, cehii au ales o modernizare prin modificare, in locul achizitionarii unui sistem cu totul nou.
Astfel in locul rachetelor rusesti, vor fi instalate rachete italiene Aspide si de asemenea se va achiziona un nou sistem de control al focului. Aspide la randul ei este o rachete cu raza medie, 75 km, produsa initial de italieni dupa modelul american aer-aer, AIM-7E Sparrow, racheta ghidata prin radar. Aspide are o masa de 220 kg, o lungime de 3,7 metri si este in acest moment o intreprindere 100% italienesca, trecand prin multe modificari si upgrad-ari.
Ideea de a moderniza sistemul KUB,prin folosirea de rachete de productie vestica, le-a venit si poloneziilor, ba se pare ca si romaniilor, anul trecut fiind semnat un contract intre UTI Romania si Bumar Polonia, priviind modernizarea si achizitionare de sisteme AA cu raza scurta si lunga. Deocamdata nu stim in ce stadiu este aceasta colaborare, nici macar daca se lucreaza in cadrul ei.
Romania detine in acest moment opt baterii SA-6 KUB si peste 1000 de rachete. Nu stim insa daca interesul pentru modernizarea/upgrad-area sistemului exista si la noi, sau doar polonezii vor asta.
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Stie cineva in ce stadiu este colaborarea UTI-Brumar?1
Fara sa fiu rautacios, probabil este in stadiul de „intentie”, ca la mai toate programele.
Si aducerea HAWK la standardul XXI e tot in stadiul ala.
Ar avea sens sa le modernizam, pt ca sunt destule sisteme si rachete.
Si bani oricum ‘nu am avut’, ‘nu avem’ si ‘nu o sa avem’.
Romania a emis deja o cerere de informatii pentru modernizarea SA-6.
Detaliile tehnice ale modernizarii cerute de Romania le gasiti in articolul lui WW : rumaniamilitary.wordpress.com/2011/12/12/inteligenta-romaneasca-modernizarea-complexelor-de-rachete-sa-8-si-sa-6-intre-dorinta-si-realitate/
Pe piata sint doua variante de modernizare ale SA-6 cu rachete vestice: Retia Cehia cu MBDA Aspide 2000 si WZU Polonia cu Raytheon Sparrow/ESSM.
Cum cererea de informatii copiaza aproape cuvant cu cuvant brosura WZU si la capitolul rachete posibile este dat exemplul Sparrow, e foarte probabil ca Romania sa prefere modernizarea WZU.
Din cate am inteles modernizarea cehilor cu MBDA este mai ampla, mai ales pe partea de electronica dar si mai scumpa decat cea a polonezilor.
„Poland’s Wojskowe Zaklady Uzbrojenia (WZU – Military Armament Works) in Grudziadzu and US-based Raytheon are taking their proposed upgrade of the Russian 2K12 Kub (SA-6) air defence system to the international market.
The teaming arrangement may also eventually involve Czech Republic-based Retia, which has developed another upgrade configuration of the SA-6, as a third partner. Retia’s upgrade includes more advanced hardware than the Polish solution, but is considerably more expensive, according to Raytheon representatives.”
http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Defence-Weekly-2010/Poland-s-WZU-and-Raytheon-pitch-SA-6-upgrade-to-international-market.html
Dar daca in loc de Aspide (echivalentul Sparrow) se va lua ESSM atunci varianta WZU ar putea fi mai performanta din punct de vedere al rachetelor. In plus, se va deschide calea spre upgradarea la versiunea cu radar activ a ESSM atunci cand va fi disponibila.
Intrebare: modernizarea asta nu poate consta si in modernizarea si pastrarea rachetelor rusesti, ca avem deja 1000.
Pt ca in varianta cumpararii de ESSM, ce se mai modernizeaza, din vechiul sistem raman numai vehiculul senilat si rampele de lansare de pe ele.
In rest, alte rachete plus alte sisteme de conducere a focului. Si din tot systemul, astea sunt cele mai scumpe.
Nu-i prea vad pe romani cumparand 1000 ESSM sa inlocuiasca 1000 KUBuri, din motivele arhicunoscute…
SA-6 are mare nevoie de modernizare pe partea de electronica, actualele sisteme sint considerate complet depasite si ineficiente impotriva bruiajului si deci inutile in practica dar atunci trebuie sa modernizezi si racheta pentru a fi compatibila cu noile radare.
In plus, rachetele au o durata de viata data si de combustibilul solid care se degradeaza in timp. Daca trebuie inlocuita electronica si motorul rachetei, atunci nu mai ramane mare lucru nici din racheta initiala si poate ca trecerea la un sistem nou cu performante mult mai bune este de dorit.
Initial polonezii se gandeau si ei la o modernizare cu pastrarea rachetelor rusesti, dar upgradate:
„A key element in the upgrade is replacing the original Soviet-designed vacuum-tube technology electronics of the radar and the fire-control system with digital components either produced in Poland or imported from the west. The Polish upgrade also includes an additional low-light television tracker mounted on the radar assembly and new NATO-compatible communications and IFF equipment.In addition, a Polish upgrade of the SA-6 force could also modernise the current Polish inventory of 3M8M3E (SA-6b) SAMs. Built between 1980 and 1987, these missiles could be upgraded to extend their service life.The complete upgrade package is reported to improve target-detection range and missile accuracy. It also provides better reliability,lower maintenance requirements and increased battlefield mobility”
http://articles.janes.com/articles/Janes-Missiles-And-Rockets-99/SA-6-UPGRADE-PACKAGE-DEVELOPED-IN-POLAND.html
Probabil ca si-au dat seama ca modernizarea succesiva a rachetelor nu poate fi facuta la infinit si de la un moment dat este mai ieftin de cumparat ceva mai nou si mai performant.
Nu stiu daca ei produc combustibilul pentru rachete, daca nu, atunci erau limitati de durata de viata a motorului.
N-am nici un fel de informatii daca Romania poate produce sau nu combustibilul racheta, dar sintem cam in aceeasi situatie cu a polonezilor.
Nu poate.
Nu mai poate .
Cu doi-trei ani in urma un ofiter roman se plangea vis-a-vis de SA-6 KUB de faptul ca Ungaria a reusit modernizarea partiala a sistemului in sensul ca: sistemul original putea ghida rachete, una sau mai multe, doar catre o singura tinta, in timp ce ungurii reusisera sa updateze conducerea focului pentru a conduce rachete catre 10 tinte concomitent. Presupun ca era vorba doar de sistemul de conducere al focului, nu si de rachete.
Ungurii si-au modernizat SA-6 in colaborare tot cu WZU Polonia insa si ei au nevoie de extinderea duratei de viata a rachetelor:
„The Hungarian Air Force accepted its first two 1S91M2-P1 SURN surveillance and tracking radars and associated with the 2K12M2 Kub (SA-6 ’Gainful’) mobile air defence systems, and upgraded in Poland by the MND Wojskowe Zaklady Uzbrojenia Nr 2 (WZU-2) depot in Grudziadz, at the end of August.
The upgrade involves the addition of new passive surveillance sensors, including WZU-2’s TL-1 hi-resolution TV camera and a SAGEM IRIS second-generation thermal imager. Images provided by these sensors are integrated in a single channel with the radar picture, and presented on a new 10in Barco MPRD126HG flat-panel display. The traditional circular local air picture display has been replaced with a colour TV display.
The WZU-2-developed package substantially reduces maintenance workload and extends the mean-time-between-failures. It also improves target-detection rates, recognition and identification, as well as dramatically increasing the ECCM (electronic counter- countermeasures) capability of the system. The pre-use checklist, required by the 1970s-vintage systems, has been reduced by 300 actions.
At the specific request of the user, WZU-2 has integrated the Raytheon AN/TPX-56 Mode 4/Mode 5-capable digital IFF (Identification Friend or Foe) interrogator, delivered via the Aviation Service company, onto the 1S91M2 radar system. WZU-2 has also installed the locally developed environment control system, extending the maintenance-free storage period.
Hungary received five 2K12M1 and six 2K12M2 Kub systems between 1976 and 1979 and hopes to keep them in service until 2010. This will require a further life extension of the 3M9ME missiles around 2006”
http://www.eisc.com.cn/webdata/Data.asp?nRecno=54400&Recno=251945&kw=%5BRadar%5D
Din articol reise ca ungurii se gandeau tot la ceva cat mai ieftin si pe termen scurt, dar 2010 a trecut deja si nu stiu care mai e situatia.
Pe termen mediu, probabil ca si ei vor opta pentru un alt tip de rachete din Vest.
Reprezentanti ai Romaniei au fost de fata la prezentarea solutiei de modernizare a SA-6 tinuta acum cateva saptamani in Cehia:
„CZMOD tasked RETIA in 2009 to find an appropriate missile and to modernize 2K12 KUB system. This system is used by many NATO member countries in Europe and it satisfies armed forces operational requirements. The main limitation of this system is short missiles´ lifetime. AFCR are facing a decision how to secure air space: either by a procurement of a new air defence system, by sequenced replacement of existing missiles or partially by giving up of this task.
The results of the defence research will be presented by RETIA experts on 6th March 2012 from 12 o´clock. The presentation will begin at the company´s headquarters and in the afternoon the modernized system will be introduced at Pardubice airport.
The members of the Czech Republic parliament, representatives of CZMOD and the General Staff of AFCR and representatives of armed forces of Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria will participate in this presentation. MBDA, the biggest European company in the area of guided missiles and rockets delivery, which has cooperated in the research project with RETIA, will also send its experts to take part in this presentation.”
http://www.military-retia.cz/en/news/1519-odstavec-the-czech-company-retia-a-s-is-replacing-three-deadly-fingers-of-the-surface-to-air-missile-sam-system-2k12-kub/
Interesanta stirea. Poate da Dumnezeu si se misca ceva…
pai ai nostri se plimba, ca de obicei, ca au un motiv.
Au fost si in Polonia pt acelasi tip de problema, merg si in Cehia! Clar Armata este interesata, sa vedem daca va avea si cu ce. Si puteti sa ma numiti optimist bolnav, dar anul acesta sunt sigur ca se va misca ceva si inca prin punctele esentiale…
Se pare ca nu va fi o contributie majora a industriei romanesti de aparare, deoarce la Biziday s-a anuntat ca se reduc cu 9% efectivele personalului din aceasta industrie. Primii vizati sunt cei de la Avioane Craiova.
Practic doar Romarm vor ramane efectiv cu statut de industrie, avand peste 1000 de angajati, restul pastrand efective a in jurul de max. 100 de persoane, doar pt. mentenanta.
Pacat, mare pacat!
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